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  • Truth and Real

    Posted by Ravindra Keshaw Botkar on September 29, 2024 at 2:25 pm

    Hare Krsna Prabhuji, Dandavat Pranam,

    While reading Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagvatam, I find these two words: Truth and Real have similar meanings.

    The word “Truth” is found with Absolute Truth and word “Real” is found with Real Knowledge

    – In SB 1.1.1: Absolute Truth is ultimate source of all energies and primeval cause of all causes.

    – Iso M10 and BG 8-12, lists 18 methods, that combine together to form a gradual process to cultivate Real Knowledge.

    Q) Isn’t Real Knowledge same as Absolute Truth ?

    Please help me to re-concile these two words.

    Ys,

    Ravindra

    Medhavini Sakhi Devi Dasi JPS replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Medhavini Sakhi Devi Dasi JPS

    Member
    October 5, 2024 at 12:38 am

    hmm… interesting observation and query …. my humble submission is real knowledge is transcendental knowledge that enables one to understand the Absolute truth, The Supreme Personality of GodHead… … real knowledge is the route through which we can understand the root of everything – the source of everything – the ultimate cause of all causes – the sat chit ananda vigraha – SPOG Lord Krsna!… and start the practice of bhakti – sadhana. Nava vidha bhakti starts with sravanam – when we inquire and hear from a bonafide Guru, we receive real knowledge in our heart which enables us to perform activities as prescribed such as chanting HKMM, hearing BG, SB, CC from our Gurus and in this way realize the goal of human form of life – Krsna Prema which is the complete understanding of the Absolute Truth in his form as Bhagavan with whom we exchange loving reciprocation when we attain the stage of Krsna Prema….

    So in summary, receiving and understanding real knowledge is part of sambandha gyan – I am servant of the Lord, which leads us to perform abhideya – nava vidha bhakti from sravanam to atmanivedanam where the real knowledge grows in our heart to cut the roots of lust, anger, greed, pride , envy, illusion and that leads us to prayojana – Krsna Prema – complete understanding of the Absolute Truth – Purna Purushottam Bhagavan – Supreme Personality of GodHead – which is loving devotional service with Prema unto lotus feet of Radhe Krsna….Gaurangaaaaa!!!!……

    These are some thoughts….Hope this gives some perspective!!

    Yours in service

    Medhavini Sakhi Devi Dasi

  • Ravindra Keshaw Botkar

    Member
    October 5, 2024 at 11:56 am

    Hare Krishna Mata JI,

    Dandvat Pranam,

    Thank you very much Mataji for taking your precious time to answer my question very nicely and in detail.

    In summary, the Real Knowledge is that Knowledge that will lead the seeker to the Truth and that Truth is Absolute Truth, Param Satyam. And the gradual process/method to acquire this Real Knowledge must be as per BG 4.34 and Sri Isopanisad Mantra 10 (list of 18 items).

    All other methods and the false knowledge are in nescience category i.e. ignorance.

    Ys,

    Ravindra K Botkar

  • Medhavini Sakhi Devi Dasi JPS

    Member
    October 5, 2024 at 5:42 pm

    Perfect!!! Nice summarization!!! Haribol!!! pamho, ys, msdd

    • Mayank Aggarwal

      Member
      October 5, 2024 at 10:53 pm

      Nice to see some meaningful conversations

      • Medhavini Sakhi Devi Dasi JPS

        Member
        October 6, 2024 at 9:06 am

        Thank you to Ravi Pr for the wonderful query that started the discussion that is pleasing to our Siksha Guru and grateful to be able to repeat what we have heard from our siksha Gurus for Their pleasure…. Much heartfelt gratitude to your encouraging comment dear Madan Sundar Prabhu………. pamho, ys, medhavini sakhi dasi

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